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Jun 24 2010, 02:32 AM
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i'm not sure.

i'm an afi fan through and through. i love all the albums.

but i've been listening to crash love a heap lately and i think its fair great, except veronica sawyer smokes, thats a shit song, but all the same i think the albums great. specally the bonus track; fainting spells. anyway, i dunno theres songs on DU that grab Me and after seeing afi after this tour the Crash Love songs grab me so yeh. not too sure

what do you guys reckon?

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Jun 24 2010, 06:26 AM
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As of recent times, I can no longer listen to ANY song on DU. They all make me cringe.
CL is better, it's less XO-EMO but at the same time I get bored after listening to about 3 songs (I really like Torch Song and Beautiful Thieves, as well as Fainting Spells). I don't listen to it a whole lot but I listen to it more than DU therefore it must be better. I'm glad there's an entire back catalogue to listen to though.


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Jun 24 2010, 08:44 AM
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Currently, I love CL more.
However, DU will always have a special place in my heart.
CL is more relevant to me right now, and is also just really, really good.
I'll see in a few years which one I like better. Even though I always change around what I think the best AFI album is every 6 months or so.


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Jun 24 2010, 09:23 AM
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It depends on how I'm feeling. Like some songs on CL fit to me more one day, but a song on DU will describe how I feel another day.


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DU for me. Gators gonna gait, etc.


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Jun 24 2010, 10:21 AM
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crash_love.gif pwns IMO. I still like maybe 4 songs on DU but compared to the 17 out of 18 Crash Love era releases that I like, there is no contest smile.gif


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Jun 24 2010, 01:09 PM
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I like CL more. I can't really revisit any songs from DU at all.


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I love crash_love.gif without a doubt, but if it's a rainy day DU just fits it so well for me. I don't know, maybe I just like both, and I still find myself revisiting Black Sails a lot. I guess it just depends on the day.


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Jun 24 2010, 03:48 PM
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Among the given choices I'd have to say that Black Sails is a better album.


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Jun 25 2010, 02:39 PM
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Hahaha, Jake. icon14.gif tongue.gif

CL for me. It sounds closer to STS than DU did, and STS is my favorite. I only really listen to a few songs off of DU, but I like all of CL. [Even Veronica Sawyer, SOMETIMES. Depends on my mood.]


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Jul 6 2010, 07:53 AM
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There are songs on DU I like MUCH more than any CL song (K&C, KC, Affliction), but as a whole album I'm liking CL more.


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Jul 6 2010, 08:26 AM
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Am I the only one who really, really dislikes Kill Caustic and Affliction? It just felt like they were trying too hard with those tracks. They didn't go with the album at all. The music is fine, the lyrics aren't bad either, but I find the vocals to be trash.


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QUOTE (TheAceOfSpades @ Jul 6 2010, 05:26 PM) *
Am I the only one who really, really dislikes Kill Caustic and Affliction? It just felt like they were trying too hard with those tracks. They didn't go with the album at all. The music is fine, the lyrics aren't bad either, but I find the vocals to be trash.


I don't like those songs either, but like I said I don't really like any. I guess those are the songs that the band described as 'hardcore' back before the album was released when they were describing what kind of songs were going to be on DU. But you're right, they do feel very very forced in the context of that album, and they're definitely not hardcore. Also not a fan of Davey's then-new style of screaming, it was just too screechy for my liking.


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Jul 8 2010, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE (dontneedagun @ Jul 6 2010, 01:21 PM) *
I don't like those songs either, but like I said I don't really like any. I guess those are the songs that the band described as 'hardcore' back before the album was released when they were describing what kind of songs were going to be on DU. But you're right, they do feel very very forced in the context of that album, and they're definitely not hardcore. Also not a fan of Davey's then-new style of screaming, it was just too screechy for my liking.

Agreed. I realize that after his surgery he had to change up his style and whatnot, but I kind of would've preferred if he had just dropped the screaming unless it was for an older song. But I suppose that they had to find out if it would work somehow, and these songs were the guinea pigs. I'm glad they didn't use it as much on CL.


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I really, really dislike both albums.

I haven't listened to DU once since CL came out, and I haven't listened to ANYTHING from CL since seeing AFI last in March.

I would say that DU is more of how I see AFI than CL is, but I would say that if I had to, I would listen to CL over DU because it is much more consitant in its flow.

CL sounds better live, but after the first three tracks on the album I couldn't care less about the rest of them.
DU sounds like shit live (with the exception of On The Arrow), but probably has more single tracks that I like.

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Jul 18 2010, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE (Mada! @ Jul 9 2010, 05:31 PM) *
I haven't listened to DU once since CL came out, and I haven't listened to ANYTHING from CL since seeing AFI last in March.

I would say that DU is more of how I see AFI than CL is, but I would say that if I had to, I would listen to CL over DU because it is much more consitant in its flow.

CL sounds better live, but after the first three tracks on the album I couldn't care less about the rest of them.
DU sounds like shit live (with the exception of On The Arrow), but probably has more single tracks that I like.

Eh.


question... if you really really like CL, why keep listening to it?
i admit i wasnt impressed with CL on first impression but it grew on me and it grew well

i think thats why i'm so attatched to CL, after going to the two melbourne shows in march - they were frikken incredible. i held daveys hand for at least a minute before i realised it was his and when he shoved his mic near my mouth i screamed "reach out!" it was just so god damn awesome.

i agree in the consistancy thing in CL and yeh DU stuff isnt as amazing live, though i do really like kill caustic live and in general.

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srsly, how is that not great? (without discounting opinions [i respect everyones]) i still like DU, and i do think kill caustic and affliction are great songs, and are not try hard. i think they break the ice in the album and give an angst i love that the album would so be missing without them. if anything, miss murder is the tryhard song.

i dont think CL follows off STS at all, it has the same sort of consistancy as STS as in you dont just want to hear one song, but them all in their order (except veronica sawyer smokes, way too sappy not my cuppa tea [still cant believe they played at soundwave so not a festival moshing song]). Fainting Spells does, but that is from DU era. (Thats a frikken great song and i feel has the same angst as kill caustic or affliction)


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